tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18544501185350968102024-03-17T20:04:04.992-07:00Nuts From the Family TreeA Genealogy Blog About the Kelly and Williams Families (and all the rest) mostly from Frostburg, Maryland.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.comBlogger558125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-88701830302643384022018-11-09T06:48:00.006-08:002018-11-09T06:52:41.047-08:00Notes from Conversations with Mom: 1 June 2011<span style="font-family: inherit;">
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<span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-size: small;">I</span>t was on this day
that I started keeping dated notes when I talked to Mom on the phone. We talked
almost every day for a while there. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Wish I’d dated all the notes prior to </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">that</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">but am happy to have what
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">On this day Mom
wanted to talk about WWII and the boys who</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> served. There were a lot </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">of them too, and ours
wasn’t the only family </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">who sent their </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">boys off. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Mom’s brother Camey Williams </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">joined the Army and went
to California</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> for training. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">His best friend was Lonnie Kyle and he’s
related by marriage</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> on </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Mom’s side, somehow. Have just spent the better part of an hour</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> trying to figure it out
and can’t work it out. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Ever get a stray person such as Lonnie Kyle? </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">You know that </span></span></span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="spellingerror"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">there’s</span></span></span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">
a connection but you just can’t make the pieces fit.</span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Mom’s maternal
grandmother Mam Whetstone is pictured with Nan Kyle in this photo above. Just don’t know who Nan is to </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Mam. This picture is
dated 1939 and Nan appears to be pregnant. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">With Lonnie’s younger brother? </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Finding out who the Kyles
were to our family</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> is going to drive me crazy</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">.</span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">While Camey was in
California</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">, </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">so </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">far away from little Frostburg, their hometown, </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">he sees Lonnie! Lonnie
yelled out, </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">“</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Last time I saw you, you had pneumonia</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">!” Which is strange thing to say, I first
thought.</span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">But it was </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">the truth! Camey and
Lonnie and a bunch of the boys</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> were playing down by the creek in January</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">. It was frozen over,
solid. Except for that spot Camey found </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">when he cracked the ice and fell in. And he
got pneumonia.</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> He did however get an ambulance ride to the hospital.</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> His first one. He was
excited, very ill but excited.</span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Camey he was a skinny little kid. Now, he </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">said that Camey had turned into a man. </span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">That’s Uncle Camey on
the right. I think this photo might have been taken in Frostburg at some point. </span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> And I have no idea where that top one was taken, but it's not Frostburg.</span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"><span class="normaltextrun1"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Mom’s sister Dot had
a childhood sweetheart named </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Harold. They grew up, fell or stayed in love
and married. Uncle Harold Conrad also served but in the Navy. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Cousin Steve knows his
Naval history and stories of his service and someday I’ll have to get more
information from him. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Meanwhile, here he is in uniform.</span></span></span></span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"><span class="eop"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Here he's on board a ship in the Pacific. Cousin Steve will know all of the details. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Thank goodness for cousins!</span></div>
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family, his brother Bernie Kelly, was off to the European Theatre of war. When
he got </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">there,</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;"> he spotted his
brother-in-law Pete Fraley</span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">, his sister </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Christiana’s husband. </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">Once they met again, Pete
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Bernie started kidding around and Pete </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">told him he </span></span><span xml:lang="EN-US"><span style="background-color: inherit;">was not regulation anything and was one of
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.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-56688846980119221112018-11-05T11:25:00.000-08:002018-11-08T14:33:35.909-08:00Long TimeYes, it has been a very long time since I've posted regularly here that I even forgot the password. But I have an idea now that could be useful to researchers. Mom's turned 100 this past July and about 10 years ago or so we started chatting on the phone. For years it was just about daily. Over time it was more difficult to make those calls happen, and that wasn't due to any lack of enthusiasm on my part. Then it ended when she became more challenged in doing tasks of everyday life. And her memory wasn't as sharp as it had been so it was awkward for her at times.<br />
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Our talks usually turned their attention to genealogy after a couple of minutes. Looking back now I'm so very glad that early on I grabbed a spiral binder and started taking notes. <br />
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Over 40 relatives and close friends attended. <br />Loved seeing each and every one.</div>
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<strong>Met a new to me cousin.</strong> Actually, met a bunch! I just love it when someone emails and says that they think we're related. That happens a lot, at least once a month. Then it's off to the races, exchanging info back and forth. It never takes but a couple of messages before we have our connection nailed down. Mom's cousin on her Whetstone side turned out to live in the same town so we met and exchanged documents an old photos too. That was terrific. Kelly cousins popped up too and we remembered that we played together as children. How about that? Eckhart and House cousins appeared out of no where! The House cousins even had a House Family Reunion and after receiving my invite I made sure that they knew about their new cousin who was adopted. He went to the reunion! A woman who held him as a baby sat and chatted with him!<br />
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<strong>So maybe Delilah wasn't a Porter after all?</strong> After an extensive DNA project handled beautifully by a guy who matches me, presumably on the Porter line, Delilah's parentage is even more in doubt. He and I were confident that she was a Porter and that perhaps her father was Samuel Porter. But then once the spreadsheet was filled in, I don't seem to match anyone else in the Porter group. Still scratching my head because Delilah's son's death certificate states that his mother's name was Porter. And, her son was names John Samuel, John being his father's name and leaving Samuel as presumably Delilah's father's name.<br />
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<strong>X DNA won't lead me to Delilah's parents. </strong><a href="https://dna-explained.com/2012/09/27/x-marks-the-spot/" target="_blank">In this blog post</a>, you can see how the X chromosome is inherited. The Porter cousin (whom I match when I don't match any other Porters) tried to prove Delilah's parents by using the X chromosome but if you take a look at the charts at the link you'll notice that the father's fathers ancestors don't hand off the X in such a way that the 3rd great grandmother on the fathers father's side would give that X to the main person. Yeah, too bad. I don't have Delilah's X. Now if this were on Mom's side, no problem! Lot's of X chromosomes there.</div>
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<strong>Our Book of Life. </strong>I set out at the beginning of last year, no make that 2016 because 2017 is gone, to write up what I know about each of the ancestral lines. For Christmas 2016 both my brother and sister got Dad's side in about 250 pages. And then this year another 250 pages on Mom's side. Honestly, I could have written more but realizing the reader can only handle so much, I trimmed. The next step, should there be one, will be to add what was left out. That should be fun, actually!</div>
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<strong>Frostburg Mining Journal Indexing Project. </strong>The geographic center of my genealogical work on my own family is the Western Maryland mountain town of Frostburg. It's a coal mining town where the big coal boom was during the years that the Journal was published, 1871 to 1913. It's available <a href="http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/pages/newspaper/diginumber.aspx?speccol=5130&id=1024" target="_blank">online at the Maryland State Archive</a>. It's great that it's finally online but there's no search feature, and not even an index. About a year ago I got so frustrated that I got the idea that I should make up an index. Yeah, so that's what's going on. I've index quite a bit for FamilySearch so I have a good idea of how this should go. I've done 2 and a half years so far and love doing it. Oh, sure, it's taking me longer than it might take others because I read it too!</div>
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Now comes the next stage of the journey: bringing it down the home stretch. No one wants to talk about this or if they do touch on it at all, the advice is to "make plans about who gets your stuff." But what happens between now and then? I'm 70 and thinking about how long I have to get my stuff ready for the big handoff. Getting older has some downsides and one of them for many of us is not being able to travel any more so less time is spent on finding those missing records at distant archives. Some of us can't remember quite as well as we used to or see the computer screen or book page as well as we once did. We never know how soon this record hunting will all come to a halt. This reality needs to be faced and anticipated to the degree we are able.<br />
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The big question isn't who gets my stuff but what shape is it going to be in when they get it? What are my plans between now and when my genealogy goods get handed off to my niece or nephews. Am I going to ship it all the big binders Mom started to them in a series of cardboard boxes? Will it get put in their garages, assuming they even have garages? No, it needs to be packaged for the future. Digital.<br />
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So, I'm sitting here thinking about the form all of the genealogy stuff needs to be in. (Poor sentence structure, I know.) Frankly, this is a work in progress but let me share what I have so far and maybe you have some thought you can add. <br />
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You should be aware to that Mom started this genealogy thing back in the 1970s. She got a slow start but then it kept rolling, like a snowball, getting bigger as it went. Last year, and because Mom is 99 and has macular degeneration and can't see the computer any longer, I brought the remainder of her binders and notebooks along with all of her books here with me. (She's in Western Maryland and I'm in San Diego.) <br />
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These present a different sort of problem when it comes to archiving the materials. Also I should mention that Mom was very good at this and went to archives, churches, and courthouses you can't get to anymore. She copied documents and took notes while there. It needs to be organized, scanned, and generally converted to digital form. So this is where I am with Mom's material.<br />
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The tree that Mom started and I built is now on Ancestry and the latest version of it downloaded to Family Tree Maker resident on my computer which is backed up to an external hard drive and backed up to Carbonite. About 10 years ago, Mom's version of her tree only existed on her computer. If her house (heaven forbid) caught on fire, all of her work would have been lost. The first task was to copy over all of her digital files to an external hard drive, and that included all of her many versions of her tree in GEDCOM form. We decided that it was well past time to share her work with anyone who needed it so I uploaded it to Ancestry. The tree is public under the name "Virginia Williams Kelly's Big Tree".<br />
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Once there on Ancestry I got very busy attaching all of the available documents from Ancestry, attaching the census, book, index, Find A grave and all the rest of them to the appropriate individuals. Because there are over 60,000 people on Mom's tree I chose to focus on the "blood line" or direct line back, and included siblings but mostly stopped there when it came to investing time attaching all the records. <br />
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Next, I uploaded photos from Mom's collection for each member in the blood line. I think having a photo of your relative or ancestor is soulfully important, and if candid's were available, all the better. As I went, if there were any important documents, such as a death certificate for an individual then it got scanned and uploaded. Remember, it's Mom's intention that her work be shared with as many other who might be interested and I share that attitude. <br />
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OK, so far Mom and I are sharing share our collective work with 1) members of the immediate family once the material is organized without dropping off a pile of boxed on someone's doorstep, and 2) with others by way of our Ancestry Member Tree. <br />
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Then, a project started last year and to be finished soon is to write up the story of each of our bloodlines and tell it in the most interesting and fact-filled way we can. Last year I wrote up Dad's side, had it bound, and gave a hard copy to my brother and sister. A thump drive went to each of the nieces and nephews. This year I'm working on Mom's side. Now I'm wondering if a local library might be interested in it? <br />
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To tell the truth, I like having this narrative form of our family's history for a number of reasons. Obviously, it's the easiest way to see and understand the broad sweep of our ancestral lines, tell the big story back through the many generations. And this story form is the easiest way to get the younger generation interested. <br />
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There's research that shows the young folks do better in life when they know they came from resilient people and personally know the individual stories of our people. Every family has resilient people and a story that says our people met with adversity. suffered, persevered and overcame. In our family there's the story of our great grandmother who ran back into her burning home to save the babies. And her husband who rebuilt the house bigger and better, but on another street. See the pattern? Tragedy, loss, suffering and then they overcame. Mine did and I'm willing to bet that yours did too.<br />
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So here I am, ready for the next step and that's taking all of Mom's binders and notebooks and turning them digital. My schedule for the rest of the year - at least- is a big old scanning party! Once that's finished I can rest a little easier.<br />
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I'm lucky because I got a big head start from all the genealogy work Mom did. She worked on the family tree from the early 1970 and when she had to stop due to eye problems she had almost 70,000 folks on the tree. Sure, many are way out there on limbs connected to other limbs, and so on, but she got more right than not. <br />
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Truth be told and because she's a great genealogist, she still worries about the accuracy of it all. When someone contacts me because they see their ancestor in this blog or because of a DNA connection, it's rare for them to tell me that I have it wrong. She's that good and I've been rechecking her work as I go along, finding new records not available to her.<br />
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There are exceptions to this and one of them has to do with a particularly confusing bunch of Workman chromosomes. I match people I shouldn't. And because DNA doesn't lie, if you do it right, my suspicion is that the confusion has to do with a man named John Workman.<br />
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Their John Workman on the confusing match trees, is John the Mormon. He was born in Cumberland, MD and went "out west" as part of that great Mormon migration. Here's the <a href="https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=25313591" target="_blank">Find A Grave listing for John the Mormon</a> and there's so much incorrect about it I hardly know where to start! Let me just say that, yes, there were early Workman in Maryland in the 1600s but they have nothing to do with the Workman family who came to Western Maryland in the late 1700s who were Dutch and came to New Amsterdam in 1647, then New Jersey about 1700.<br />
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I'm certain about who my John Workman is and that he was the son of Isaac Workman, one of many by this name, who moved on to Ohio about 1820. I have that paper trail nailed!<br />
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Thing is, these other John the Mormon people are showing up on my DNA match radar. And a couple are adamant that I'm wrong. One is quite offensive about it too. Never mind. <br />
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So here's the interesting part. I know who my John Workman is and who his parents were and children too. Have it all documented. So when these other folks came at me with the DNA thing and their John Workman and insisted that I am incorrect, at first I got defensive. Then I just sat back and thought, guess we just disagree.<br />
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Imagine this situation, if you will. By the 1780s, maybe as many as 100 Workman people were in Allegany County living in very close proximity to each other, all ultimately descended from a couple who came to New Amsterdam in 1647. They migrated in clutches - Brooklyn to New Jersey, then Pennsylvania, and on to Allegany County MD - then split up and moved on in small groups. <br />
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Have been collecting names and ancestors and keeping a chromosome spreadsheet when I can get the information. But there's a number of projects on my To Do list. I'll get on this one in a while. It needs to be done. Back before 1800 all of these Workman were moving around and naming all of their children John, Isaac, Nimrod, Cuthbert, William, Samuel and Stephen, and all in the same place. Good grief! DNA might be the only way to sort it out.<br />
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As a side note, John the Mormon is a very big deal and to say that you descend from him is rather important. Of course you see what I'm getting at here. Not saying that's what's going on but simply suggesting a possible motivation to be connected to John the Mormon rather than my humble John the farmer out in Western Maryland.<br />
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We all know our trees are never finished and that they all contain mistakes. It can hardly be any other way. Once you get past a certain point, going back in time, records are hard to find. Maybe DNA is the only way to sort it all out. Maybe.<br />
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For a while now I've been thinking that the blog needed a facelift. It's been going on for over 550 posts since 20 May 2011. I've connected with cousins who are new to me and that was a major objective. I've learned so much from them! And I've learned about what works and doesn't for me in a blog. And maybe my writing has improved, if marginally. <br />
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I wasn't sure about what I was looking for in a blog facelift. I had a name for it, The Rooted Tree, and felt that it embodied the spirit of the thing, the concept that one's tree is best when it's rooted in research and proper documentation. While this blog was very much about my personal family history journey, The Rooted Tree would be about the process of research and documentation of one's lineage, in all it's guts and glory. <br />
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So far, as of today, there are just six posts to <a href="https://therootedtreeblog.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">The Rooted Tree</a>. Each one of them takes time for the concept to develop, rough it out, build in details and then write it. Finally, and this is the most difficult part for me, I go back and examine each and every element closely, cite the sources, and test for logic. I'll not get it 100% right each time, that's a given. <br />
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Meanwhile, I'll continue to post here but in a less formal and structured way. Just a couple of friends chatting. I'm not going for quantity as I did here. I'm hoping that The Rooted Tree will be a rooted blog. Come on over and see what's going on. <br />
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.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-27031556307344131092016-12-26T18:58:00.002-08:002016-12-26T19:03:28.150-08:00Genealogy Project Wins Christmas!<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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That's my niece there, reading one of the books about our ancestry. (See stories below.) There were two books, one with the charts and tables, and the other contained stories of all the major lines on my Dad's side going back as far as we can now trace. <br />
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She's interested and that's what I'd hoped for. Maybe, some day down the line, she'll have the time and want to pick up the search. Time will tell. If that time does come, and even if I'm gone, she'll have a head start.<br />
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My sister got the printed version and my niece and nephew both received thumb drives with all of the documents. <br />
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Finally, I feel that the work will not disappear.<br />
<br />.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-88417230357132185632016-11-22T20:00:00.001-08:002016-11-22T20:01:31.613-08:00What to do with your genealogy files: update: Our Fascinating Family!If you take a look at the past post right there, below, you'll see that I'm busy writing my Christmas present to my siblings. Shh, don't tell them, but it's a report from our family tree! <br />
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After the chart and report had been generated in Family Tree Maker and printed, it looked, well, seriously boring! There was not one little trace of the excitement I felt when working on my tree! How could anyone be expected to get thrilled about our fascinating family looking at this document? <br />
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I wanted a document that equaled my own excitement at the discoveries that had hooked me from the start, and had kept Mom's attention starting in the 1970s and going hard at it until just a couple of years ago. But, how was that going to happen? Tell you what! I think I just stumbled into a way to get closer to what we all want: a document that your descendants will pick up, read, and get to know more about their family's heritage. I never thought I could write an easy 45 pages about just one family line, but once I started it was easy, relatively speaking. I simply stumbled into the answer about how to get this done and here's the story.<br />
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I started with the Workman line because I've been spending time on a project documenting who owned which lots in Western Maryland just before 1800 so that line seemed like the natural place to begin. I had a lot of charts identifying who was where and owned what, and when. But I knew from experience that the only person it was going to excite was me... and definitely not even the husband;) <br />
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Started by opening a document and save it, of course. Took a moment to write down on the first page a couple of distinctive things about the ancestors in this line. Our Workman ancestors came from Holland to New Amsterdam in the 1600s so I began there. The immigrant ancestor owned the Brooklyn Ferry and much land in the area. His son Peter was one of the first settlers in New Jersey so I had to mention that. Then his son Isaac had a son Cornelius and they both ventured into the vast wilderness trapping furs. Others followed and that's how we come to those lots I mentioned up top, owned by the Workmen family. With that outlined, I began compiling the long story of the immigrant from Holland, his English father, and what happened after they landed in Manhattan and then moved to Brooklyn, some over 350 years ago.<br />
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Then I pulled in all of the interesting documents and photos resting in my files placing them in order. I was careful to cite sources in short form as I went along. <br />
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Next I opened my Ancestry tree and had both the document and the tree visible on the screen. In that way I was able to easily copy names, dates and locations for all individuals in each generation. And before moving on I checked each of the offspring (those not in our direct line) for fascinating facts or interesting documents, maps or photos. The generations practically built themselves. <br />
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Last I added anything I could remember from my childhood or told to me by Grandma. The icing on the cake was all of the photos Mom has been saving all of these years.<br />
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At this point I had a decent but very rough draft and after a fresh cup of coffee, I started editing it and building in smooth transitions from generation to generation. As a treat to myself I added a little speculation and personal conclusions with explanations by saying things like, "it might be concluded," or "perhaps."<br />
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Before I knew it, all 45 pages were finished. The very last page listed all of the things that still might be researched plus questions or doubts I had concerning this ancestral line. I wanted to leave clues for any family member who comes after.<br />
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Oh sure, there are other better more scholarly ways to approach this type of project. I could have made notes for years, use a fancy program to put the notes in order or whatever. But that's not what happened. What did happen is a Christmas present.<br />
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I had been feeling, especially after my last milestone birthday, that I better get going and start preparing all of the collected research and family biographies in such a way so as to tempt a future generation to jump in again. And we all know that I'll be long gone when that happens! All along I've been keeping things organized and tidy as well as backed up. Made sure the appropriate people have certain passwords and account info. Have scanned a lot and there are still some of Mom's binders that could be scanned too, but that's filler work for a rainy day. Now I feel that these family histories are just the thing I've wanted so that I can be sure the work is carried on.<br />
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<br />.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-80832197785225972132016-11-02T11:53:00.000-07:002016-11-02T11:53:09.510-07:00What to do with your genealogy files and research? So, what do we do? Leave it to a library or archive? Find a family member who wants to carry on? All of those have their benefits and flaws. Ugh. <br />
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Recently I was thinking about how to share Mom and my genealogy research with my brother. He's curious but not an avid user. And my sister too. She's interested but hasn't the time to delve in. So of course as a first step I synced my Ancestry member tree with my Family Tree Maker and the printed out some reports. Was going to have that bound but it looked boring, even to me and I love this stuff. So, how could I make it look spiffy and interesting? If it looked sexy then there was a chance that my sibs or some family member might pick it up and give a look, maybe read some of it and get further interested. <br />
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One of the things I did here on the blog a while back was the Surname Saturday blogging prompt. Did it for the major surnames on the tree back about four generations. Click <a href="http://nutsfromthefamilytree.blogspot.com/2013/02/surname-saturday-workman-family.html" target="_blank">here</a> to see one about the Workman family. I posted them dutifully for a while them other things caught my attention. You know how it goes. But those Surname Saturday posts were the closest thing I had to a write-up on the various lines, so I started there and drug one out to see if it would work as a base for something interesting. <br />
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Workman was the first up. I had a lot of info on that line and jumped right in editing the Surname Saturday post. It went pretty well and moved along seemingly under it's own steam. Added some old photos, then stories from childhood about relatives on this line, especially those about Grandma Kelly whose line this is. Added wills, land deeds and court documents because brother and sister are both lawyers. I grabbed up anything that explored the story of the Workmans going back as far as I knew and had researched and that takes us back to about 1600. <br />
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Of course, there was special attention paid to calling out family stories and conjecture versus facts and documents. I am still conflicted about footnotes and if they should be included. Seems too counterproductive to keeping up interest in the document if the pages look bogged down with sources. But I do want to include them. End of chapter? End of book? Feeling like there's no 'right' answer. <br />
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The approach here is for it to read like a personal conversation with my sibs, having a chat about the ancestors, telling what was exciting about them. Sharing the mysteries still to be uncovered, the evidence that's not enough to draw a conclusion, yet. And pictures and old documents, maps. Visual salt and pepper. <br />
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Even though the Surname Saturday posts gave me a start, this has become so much more! I started with just three pages and I'm up to 35 and no where near finished. I'm excited because this isn't just a lineage chart, it's the saga of one American family that's emblematic of so many others. As I go, I come to understand much more about the long arc of our family's story in America. It helps me see the elements that makes us, us. <br />
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Not yet finished but I have until the holidays. What I can say is that it's coming along better than I envisioned and at this point, it practically writing itself.<br />
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<span lang="EN" style="color: #1d2129; font-family: "helvetica" , sans-serif; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Have no passion for all CAPS, but just had to use them because I'm that excited to share this story:) While at mom's back in May, in Frostburg in Western Maryland, went to see Percy Cemetery. Percy
dates from about 1830, with some burials earlier. It was first the major burial
place for the Methodist Church in town but then expanded to receive many of the
town's prominent citizens until the more contemporary Frostburg Cemetery
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Supplemental Application (supplemental to my original application for Patriot
Nehemiah Newan) for John Trimble a while back and received an AIR which is
DAR-ese for Additional Information Required. They pointed out that Margaret
Trimble Combs, daughter of Patriot John Trimble and wife of John Combs, was
lacking a precise death date. When I looked at what I submitted, sure enough,
they were right and I could do better!<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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Margaret's death date by following John and Margaret's participation in the
Methodist Church and then Margaret's disappearance from their list of
congregants. 1849. That's when she died. And she was missing in the 1850 census
too, which was the source document I originally submitted. So her death date
was between October 1849 and February 1850.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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buried? John, her husband, was buried in Percy Cemetery and a nice stone was
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and prominent in the Methodist Church giving land for it and presumably
supported it with donations. It would be reasonable to suggests that Margaret
was buried in the plot adjacent John and that there had been at one time a nice
big stone like his. Yet no photo of it was in Mom's tombstone file or on Find A
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">That's John's stone there on the right and see that small stone leaning against the tree? Check this out, below!</span></div>
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I found. You can see John Combs' stone and then look! There's the top of a
stone within five feet of his, leaning against a tree that says
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photo up top, you'll see a house right in back of John's stone. That's my Grandma
Kelly's house and they were grandma's 3rd great grandparents. WOW! John and
Margaret were within 100 feet of me as I played on Grandma's lawn as a kid!</span></span></div>
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.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-25108281085160197522016-07-13T08:23:00.001-07:002016-07-13T08:23:17.718-07:00The season for bashing Ancestry Member Trees? Take a second look!Really, it's been going on for a long time and I don't mean to infer otherwise, but of late it seems to me that it's open season on Ancestry Member Trees. A recent email conversation by a probable new-to-me cousin, a blog post or two by the usual experts, and even more Facebook posts that hold AMTs, or Ancestry Member Trees, up to scrutiny and even ridicule, float by as I comb such trees carefully looking for hints and evidence. And I've found hints and evidence all over the place! Treasures! The Good Stuff!<br />
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If you're new to all of this genealogy stuff you might not be familiar with the term AMT and why someone would want to bash them. As you probably know because of their TV commercials you can build a tree on Ancestry by following those shaking green leaves. Enter a name, click on a leaf to find records, photos, stories and all manner of info about your ancestor. It looks so easy! <br />
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One of the hints is usually a grouping of Ancestry Member Trees built by other Ancestry members, like yourself. You can choose to add what they've posted in whole or in part, and thereby build out your tree really fast, if you don't take time to question and evaluate what you're adding. In this way - by not carefully evaluating what someone else has put on their tree - you can easily build what some call a "garbage tree" with no real records or sources. You can tell which trees are the garbage trees because the only source you find is a reference to someone else's member tree. It's easy to see why AMTs have a bad reputation!<br />
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But, look. It's not the trees themselves or the shaking green leaves or hints that's a problem. It's the way members choose to build out their trees: without records. But there are other, better trees out there, and plenty of them. You just have to look.<br />
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Is it just me who is finding gems right there on AMTs? I doubt it! Just last week I was working as a volunteer Genealogy Consultant for our DAR chapter and helping a chapter member with a supplemental application. A supplemental application happens when a woman who is a DAR member and has already submitted an application proving her lineal descendancy from a Patriot Ancestor, then wants to submit another - or supplemental to her original application - proving her lineal descent from another Patriot Ancestor. <br />
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We DAR members who are crazy about genealogy simply love preparing supplementals. But those chapter members who might find the application and their research a challenge can request help for one of the chapter's Genealogy Consultants. That's when I arrive on the scene! <br />
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So there I was working on a supplemental for a chapter member. It all seemed fine except for one very important aspect of the application and that's the proof connecting generations. What I really wanted was a will but I knew that this guy, the father, died intestate. It was back in the 1760s and civil records of birth were not kept in that time and place. They didn't attend a church with good record keeping habits, so that was out. Land records were also an option but this was a father / daughter connection and so based on previous experience, I know not to get my hopes up. Had checked Ancestry will and probate files and came up empty. I was just about to turn to FamilySearch and getting ready to spend hours and hours "browsing" the probate records when I though to check Ancestry Member Trees for any tasty tid-bits. And there it was! The will of the father naming the daughter and her husband! <br />
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Of course I needed a source citation, but now that I had the probate file with will and other papers that some wonderfully thoughtful and caring Ancestry Member had posted to his Individual page, I carefully looked at every one of them checking for hints of where these documents might have come from. Finally, three-quarters of the way down the stack of pages, I saw a tiny pencil handwritten notation at the top. Vol I, pg 408. Gold!!<br />
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In no time, I navigated my way through the probate files on FamilySearch and found what I needed. I knew the volume number and page number for one of the images and the will was about four pages before that. Nice!!<br />
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Quite recently I've found more and more treasures like this which is interesting. I remember not too long ago when Ancestry users would keep the good goods away from their trees. "I got mine, you work to get yours" was the attitude. But why, what's the point in that? Where's the harm in sharing the best stuff we have? I just paid $40 for three death certificates and believe me when I say that I can't wait to get them scanned and posted to my Ancestry Member Tree. <br />
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I have a bunch of stuff I've ordered and received from archives. There's that time I called the courthouse and a kind clerk went and got the document I asked for and emailed it to me! I want to share that too. Share it all. What good does it do to sit in my files here while I hold on to it with my stingy hands? I use it but it would be far better shared and helping others. The individual page on Ancestry is the very best place for me to leave it. <br />
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Oh, yes, I'm aware of the potential to violate copyright in doing this so I do check carefully to see if the location where the document was found has limitations. If so, then I'll post a PDF page stating what was found and where, giving as much info as possible that helps someone else find it as easily as possible.<br />
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Wouldn't it be great if we all did this? Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all shared our best stuff? Trees would get better and better. Let's do that!<br />
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<br />.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-43452639232380481862016-07-06T12:15:00.001-07:002016-07-06T12:15:15.466-07:00Is there a 12 Step program for genetic genealogy? Maybe!Oh, no! Another DNA cousin has popped up! <br />
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I don't mean to seem ungrateful for the connection to another DNA cousin at all. In fact, I welcome all of them. It's just that every time I see that "We might be cousins" subject in the email, I know that I'll be spending some bunch of hours trying to sort it out. Right now it seems there are so many people testing with the Big 3 and then finding GEDmatch that I have to hustle to keep up. <br />
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I didn't even realize that I had a "problem" until I saw this blog article, "The Stages of Genetic Genealogy Addiction", by Roberta Estes that it all sunk in. Houston, I have a problem!<br />
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<a href="https://dna-explained.com/2016/07/06/the-stages-of-genetic-genealogy-addiction/">https://dna-explained.com/2016/07/06/the-stages-of-genetic-genealogy-addiction/</a><br />
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I can check them all off but have drawn the line at #7 and refuse to spend any more to get DNA relatives tested! Can't do it. Won't do it. Seriously, I just about have come to the point where I don't need to because the cousins are shelling out their own money to buy kits! <br />
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Happily, I've not gone the whole route to number 10. Not in a cab going somewhere and thinking about the next DNA match. But I am at 9, at home, thinking about the next DNA cousin. Hmm. Thanks, Roberta, for pointing this out;)<br />
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<em><strong>Great grandmother Moretta Workman Zeller with Gustav Zeller and sons Charles, Bert, and Gus Jr.</strong></em></div>
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.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-4361204814879295932016-07-03T19:52:00.002-07:002016-07-03T19:52:25.065-07:00New meaning found in the 4th of July and old meaning kept aliveI've always loved the 4th of July since I was a kid. Loved the home-town parades with kids on decorated bikes and streamers flowing, families pulling kids in decorated wagons, the local school band, a troop of scouts marching and the corn queen sitting on the back deck of a convertible, waving to all, regally! I just love that stuff. Not everyone does. They can go ahead and make fun, and I'll just take their seat and be as happy as can be.<br />
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Love the soap box derby. Love the ice cream socials that raises money for the senior center. The Elks weenie roast. The smell of the big smoker set up behind the church for the picnic. Pies, oh my, the pies!<br />
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Love the fireworks, not all of them purchased legally. Sparklers, which were featured on the news today as highly dangerous. Must confess to being a bit happy that we didn't know that when we were young. The surprise of an early evening rogue fireworks display by neighbors down the way, lasting for only a half-a-minute. Or one high-flyer firework breaking the evening silence. Lightning bugs in jars. Wouldn't be complete as a summer evening without them. Mosquitos too. <br />
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I enjoyed the simple childhood pleasures that followed me in fondness of memory into adulthood. Oh, sure, now we all see the danger everywhere. But then there was freedom and fun in it. <br />
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I also remember that time when circumstances dictated that we move into a high-rise building on July 4, 1976. The Bi-Centennial. We were somehow invited up to the penthouse to view Op Sail and the fireworks over the Hudson River. That was an exhausting but memorable 4th of July!<br />
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Now in my older adulthood I also understand the truer meaning of the 4th. Today I've thought about my eight Revolutionary War ancestors recognized by the DAR, as well as those who haven't yet been recognized. Since being active in the DAR their memory has gained added dimension. <br />
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I wonder if any of my ancestors were born on the 4th of July. I'll have to look.<br />
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Backyard picnic or church picnic, we found ourselves at a picnic on the 4th of July!</div>
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I've has so many people ask how to get onto the DAR web site and check to see if their ancestor is listed that I wrote up a How To sheet for it with step-by-step instructions. And it is.<br />
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<strong>How to find the Genealogy Record System or GRS </strong><br />
<strong>and see the search page for Ancestors in the DAR database.</strong><br /><br />1. go to<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.dar.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0072c6;">http://www.dar.org/</span></a><br /><br />2. find GENEALOGY at the very top and click there.<br /><br />3. In the middle of that page you'll see a column heading that says "Genealogy Research, GRS".<br /><br />4. Under GRS at the top of the list is "Ancestor Search", and click there.<br /><br />5. That will take you to the Ancestor Search page. You can enter what you know here but sometimes less is more so a last name and a first name is often enough to start.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br /><br />6. If it's an unusual name or a name that could have many spellings then use the "Advanced Search" feature. You'll find the link to that on the right. Advanced Search lets you use Soundex. Using Advanced Search and Soundex will bring up more results to choose from.<br /><br />7. If you've used Soundex or there are more than one men of the same name, they will all come up in the search results. Then you'll need to narrow the selections by birth and death dates as well as locations.<br /><br />8. Click on the ancestor name to see the details page.<br /><br />By this time you should have a pretty good idea if your ancestor is already recognized and verified by the DAR!.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-61587706969794403282016-06-18T07:58:00.000-07:002016-06-19T19:26:12.659-07:001850 Census Love!I am just wild about the 1850 census. Sure it doesn't give family relationships or how many years the couple was married or how many children she had, but it has a raw freshness that's fascinating. <br />
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It was the first census that lists household member, and a lot more! But "more" in a different way that can reveal much about the people enumerated! Maybe the enumerator had that beginner's "unleashed" mindset in which lack of specific and clear instructions meant more candid listings. And it's always interesting to see who had valuable real estate! <br />
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Check these two entries from Cumberland, Allegany County, Maryland.<br />
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I posted these pages to the Western Maryland History Group on Facebook, which is a closed group of pretty serious historian and family researchers, and got a fascinating response. Brenda, who lives in the Kansas City area for some time recognized the name Jesse Quantrill, who was spending some quality time with the jailer, as you can see above. She added some frosting to this census return with the following, transcribed from <a href="https://archive.org/stream/quantrillborderw00connuoft/quantrillborderw00connuoft_djvu.txt" target="_blank"><span style="color: purple;">this web page</span></a>. Read on and be amazed!! Thank you so much, Brenda, for going the extra step to make history come alive.</div>
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Lane, daughter of Seth Lane, said to have been one of the foremost citizens of
Hagerstown, was infatuated with him, and they were clandestinely married. She
was to inherit a considerable sum of money at a certain age which she had not
attained by a year when married. By making a very full and sweeping
relinquishment he secured this money from the bank in which it had been
deposited, and which, it was affirmed, belonged in part to Seth Lane and his
son. When his wife had attained her majority he endeavored to collect the money
again, alleging that the bank had no legal right to pay the money at the time
it had been paid<br />
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“With the money of his wife he had engaged in the grocer business in
Williamsport, MD. This business was a failure, and the money was lost. He then
determined to engage in larger operations. He went to New York City, where he
represented himself to be the son of a wealthy Virginia merchant well known there,
and purchased on credit a large stock of goods, which he caused to be shipped
to himself at Baltimore. This swindle was discovered by the merchants in time
to stop a portion of the shipment and save some of the goods. But he succeeded
in disposing of a part of the merchandise I a way which baffled all attempts to
trace it. To avoid the consequences of this transaction he availed himself of
the benefit of the law for bankrupts, but as his action was based on fraud he
was cast into prison. For ix months his beautiful wife shared his cell. He
finally secured an acquittal and was released. While in prison he had read law
under directions from William Price, one of the leading lawyers of Western
Maryland.<br />
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“From Maryland Jesse D. Quantrill went to St. Louis, Mo., where he was soon in
trouble and in jail, securing his release finally through the efforts of his
wife, who still clung to him. Upon his release he took boat for Cincinnati, and
while on board committed a forgery which seems to have been discovered at once,
and for which he escaped punishment. From Cincinnati he went to New Orleans,
where he became dissipated and began to neglect and abuse his wife. She fell
ill, and her condition appeared to work a change in him. He started by boat to
take her home to Maryland but while to boat was yet on the Mississippi river he
committed a forgery on a Cincinnati bank. He was soon detected in this crime,
was taken to Cincinnati and thrown into jail. After a confinement in prison of
seven months is wife succeeded in securing him bail, which he forfeited by not
appearing for trial, deserting his wife at that place. She next heard of him at
Hagerstown, where he was in trouble for a forgery he committed there, but for
which he escaped conviction. He then went to Pennsylvania, were he was
sentenced to a term of imprisonment in the penitentiary for forgery, and he
served three years. While serving this sentence his wife secured a divorce from
him, it is said, by the act of the Maryland Legislature. When he hear of her
action in procuring the divorce he made many savage threats against her life.
But upon his release from prison he married a Pennsylvania lady, and was soon
thereafter arrested for another forgery, for which he was sentenced to a term
of seven years in the penitentiary.<br />
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“Meanwhile, Mrs. Quantill had married a Mr. A. Cowton, proprietor of the United
States Hotel, Cumberland, Maryland with whom she was happily living. Quantrill
was released from the Pennsylvania penitentiary in 1848. In March, 1849, he
appeared in Cumberland. On the fifth of that month Mrs, Cowton was in her
apartments, when a servant showed up a gentleman who had just arrived in the
city. He dismissed the servant, and closed and locked the door. He then turned
to Mrs. Cowton, who was horrified to behold Qunatrill, her former husband.
There was murder in his looks, and she screamed for help. He told her that her
hour had come, caught her by the throat, threw her to the floor, placed his
knee upon her breast, and snapped a pistol in her face. When the pistol missed
fire, and just as he was drawing a long knife, several persons who had been
attracted by her screams, broke down the door and rescued Mrs. Cowton<br />
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“For this attempt to murder he was sentenced to a term of imprisonment. He must
have possessed a fascinating personality, for he soon obtained an unaccountable
influence over the prison officials and was allowed considerable freedom, even
acting as guard over other prisoners. In 1851 he was pardoned upon condition
that he would leave the state and never return.”</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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I'm feeling that I've learned something about death from doing this work and I'd like to share observations with you here. As always, feel free to comment:)<br />
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1. No one gets out of this life alive. Everyone gets to die. I think that I want to live like I actually know that, and that I know time is limited. When I was in my early 20s maybe I did stuff that indicated I thought I was immortal. Maybe you did too? Now I know that death will come. Morbid? Naw. Just practical. It's good to know firmly that my stuff and especially my genealogy stuff will not go with me when I die. Therefore I need to figure out who gets it.<br />
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2. I'd like a nice smallish stone. We can't help but stand in the graveyard and think, gosh, that's a real nice stone over there! I am partial to the older ones, especially the Victorians. You can spot them across the way. They stand tall and maybe have a female figure atop. I like that even though it's not the style now. My Dad, his brother and brother-in-law all chose black granite. Maybe it's a guy thing? I'd really prefer a white marble stone but they deteriorate too quickly. Isn't it frustrating to see an old marble stone all eroded and losing the clarity of the inscription? It's amazing how quickly the old stones are going now. Maybe it's air quality. <br />
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3. I do want a stone. I wouldn't feel right without knowing that a stone was in place and waiting. Scatter my ashes where you please, but I want my page on Find-A-Grave. Stop by, leave a note or a flower. I like that FAG iris. When I think about it, that stone will be my placeholder in the physical world. <br />
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4. How long did your ancestors live? Having seen a whole bunch of tombstones that say the person died in the 90-something year of his life, and what with Mom being 98 now and going strong, and Dad making it to 92 plus, I need to take care of my parts and pieces because I'll be using them a while, most likely.<br />
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5. You can die anytime. A car accident took my aunt on a snowy day. Coal mine accidents took friends and neighbors of ancestors. My grandma, when she was just in her 50s, slipped on ice and hit her head hard after church one Sunday and was gone by the following weekend. Yup, you can go anytime.<br />
If this is true, and it appears to be so based on the lives of the ancestors, it would benefit all involved if we were well prepared. Like with a will and making peace and stuff. Legal documents in order would be helpful. For gosh sake, we've looked at plenty of wills and know their benefit to heirs and genealogists too!! Ancestors dying intestate can be fun, but think of the relatives and heirs! <br />
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6. Back to tombstone designs. I don't want one that's overly tall and thin. There must be a ratio, I'm thinking, wherein the thing won't crack and fall over. Don't you think? I really am sad to see those old stones with a stub in the ground and the top asunder. <br />
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One can hope for an easy death but that's useless. We have little power over those aspects of life's end. But there's so much else that we do have power over and that's a joy to think about. <br />
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I'm really lucky to belong to a closed Facebook group for Western Maryland History. This group has amazing members who know the goods when it comes to the history of my ancestors' homeland in Western Maryland. Document from the earliest times back in the early 1700s to now, members of the group bring obscure and overlooked oddities, often with links, and a short citation. There have even been some uploaded documents, especially maps. They're crazy about maps! Memories too get posted there. We have one thing so obviously in common: we love the land and history of our ancestors!</div>
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The above photo, taken in the early 1900s, got posted recently and there was a large and strong reaction. It's a group photo of a shift of coal miners all working in the very hazardous conditions that was the very nature of coal mining on what was called The Big Vein along George's Creek in Western Maryland. Men came, often with their families, from Wales, Ireland, and Germany, as well as north from the coal fields in Pennsylvania to the area for the work. It was hard and dirty work but it was a sure way to earn a decent living for your family, if you weren't killed in the process. Strikes were common as the mine owners tried once again to wring extra profits out of the operation by cutting the miner's salaries. But all-in-all, if a man was going to earn a living by coal mining, this was one of the best places to do it.<br />
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It's the faces of the miners that hooks everyone who sees the photo. The faces and expressions are clear. Young men, older men but no very old men. By the time a man reached middle age here he was too worn out and his body too damaged to work very hard. Young boys worked with their fathers and brothers for half-pay. They worked side-by-side, and lost limbs or lives in the same way as the men but earned half. <br />
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On the Facebook page, posts appeared under this photo. The comments were heartfelt, even emotional, rather than the cool factual comments that typically get posted. This photo was different. You see, many of us have strong men of the coal mines as our ancestors. Bit by bit, the lives of these miner came together as posts popped up. </div>
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I looked at it for the first time searching for my grandfather and great grandfather but I didn't see them there. My great grandfather Daniel Williams, who came from Wales to the area to work the mines, was a supervisor at one of the Ocean Mines, so he wasn't in this picture which appears to have been taken elsewhere. My grandfather Lee Kelly worked in the Borden Mines but he did so at a time later than this picture. But just from the looks of the picture, they could easily have been here because they would have fit right in.<br />
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<strong><em>There's my great grandfather Daniel Williams, second from the left, with a mining crew.</em></strong></div>
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Back to the photo up top. Do you see their lunch buckets? There in the front. Everyone had one. These men worked hard doing manual labor that burned a lot of calories, so they had big appetites. My Grandpop Kelly called it a dinner pail because that's what he called the mid-day meal. You can see the size of the bucket and imaging what all went in there. Lots and lots of food. No salads. No kale. No quinoa. </div>
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Look how clean their faces and garments are. Obviously this photo was taken at the start of the day when the men were on the way to the mines. By the end of the day they were covered in coal dust. Some homes had a "wash house" out back, for laundry but also as a place where the miners of the family could wash up and change clothes before entering the house. Grandma Kelly's house had a big back porch were Grandpop washed up. <br />
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But the killer detail in this big group photo is the lamps on the hats. And I don't use the word "killer" lightly. Those were carbide lamps and if the coal dust got bad or there was gas leaking from the mine, the carbide lamp would cause an explosion. <br />
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One of the members of the Facebook group posted that his ancestor raised canaries to be sold to the mining companies. If the canary died, well.... <br />
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The mine caused all sorts of other businesses to prosper in the area. My great grandfather Gustav Zeller owned a "tonsorial emporium" or barber shop that had big bathtubs where the miners could have a bath on Saturday. He was a prosperous man! <br />
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<strong><em>Great grandfather Gus Zeller's barber shop on Main Street, Frostburg, Allegany Co., MD. Notice the oversized barber pole!</em></strong><br />
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The 100 year anniversary of Frostburg happened in 1912. It might be said that the area reached it's prosperous zenith then. The population of the area was around 15,000 and they all came to town on Saturday, market day. Frostburg hummed on a Saturday afternoon as miners and their families came to Main Street. Those miners in the photo? Wonder how many had a Saturday bath at great grandfather Zeller's barber shop?<br />
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It's all the rage across the internet in the world of genealogy: Five Generation Country of Origin Chart. I'll include a link to it below. I saw others' charts and frankly they looked pretty cool so decided to try it myself. Thing is that so many of my ancestors came from Maryland and when I color coded each geographic area, well, look at all that green! Yeah, my peeps come from Maryland!<br />
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If you want to try it, here's where to go: <a href="http://janasgenealogyandfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2016/03/my-five-generation-birthplace-pedigree.html" target="_blank">Jana's Blog</a>, and click the link at the bottom to download a sample chart. Then edit to make it your own, even adding generations!<br />
<br />.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-25069626845850396922016-03-18T19:52:00.000-07:002016-03-18T19:52:17.995-07:00Another Workman Cousin, a DAR Sister, and Another DAR Patriot!Another new-to-me cousin found me through this blog! People Google around looking for general info about their ancestors and find this blog with regularity. She was looking for connections to her ancestors William Workman and his wife the Indian Princess Tereca, and William's father Andrew Workman all of whom I blogged about not too long ago. So she sent an email! Enter Cousin Denise!<br />
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Right off we found out that she and Cousin Brenda and I are all DAR members. That's super fun right there because in addition to being DAR sisters we're also blood cousins! So many great ways to be connected. <br />
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Right now I'm awaiting approval of my additional DAR application verifying my lineal descent from my Patriot Ancestor John Trimble. And Denise is working on her additional application proving her lineal descent from William Workman's father Andrew Workman. Because Denise had already submitted an additional application for my John Trimble, she had some documents for me just as I had Workman documents for her. We burned the midnight oil playing document swap! What fun!<br />
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Now you need to know that for me, the very best thing to happen besides breaking down one of my giant brick walls, is finding a new DAR Patriot Ancestor. (You can find the DAR Patriot Ancestor database and check if your ancestor is listed <a href="http://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search/?Tab_ID=1" target="_blank">here</a>.) The DAR has already verified my applications for five Patriot Ancestors and I have two more at National right now and if they go through that will give me seven in total.<br />
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I also have a list of other more challenging ancestors that I'd like to get approved by the DAR as new Patriot Ancestors. I'm working them all and that list is right by my side at this very moment. These individuals who are ancestors on my tree that I can prove my descent from but are not yet recognized as Patriots by the DAR because no one has yet submitted an application linking to them. There are about 20 ancestors of mine who might possibly be proven, with a lot of luck. But documenting a new Patriot Ancestor means proving their service and residence at time of service as well as the usual dates and places of birth and death. As you can imagine, each one takes massive amounts of work. <br />
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So, with seven Patriot Ancestors done or at National, when Denise casually mentioned that John Trimble's father, David Trimble, is also a Patriot Ancestor, my head about exploded!!<br />
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But that's truly not the point of this story. The real point is that I connected to both Brenda and Denise because this blog with my email address was floating around out there on the internet for them to find. We've had a blast sharing a ton of old family records and getting to know each other. None of that would have happened had it not been for this blog.<br />
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Take every chance you can to get out there and make connections to both cousins and others searching for your ancestral lines. Start a blog, post to message boards, join genealogical societies and historical societies in the places you research, join Facebook groups and post your questions. Make yourself and your connections to your ancestors visible on the internet. You'll be so glad that you did.<br />
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<br />.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-16518049868929818542016-02-14T19:07:00.000-08:002016-02-14T19:07:02.869-08:00The Indian Princess Finally Makes Her Entrance!I remember sitting on the front porch with Grandma Kelly, sitting in the swing that overlooked West Main Street in Frostburg, Allegany County, Maryland. Main Street was, well, the main street and even though it's name was changed from Union Street to Main Street, it was the number one thoroughfare in the little mountain town in Western Maryland. <br />
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"Yooo-hooo!" Grandma would wave and call out to all foot traffic. She loved greeting people and more likely than not, she knew absolutely everyone who came past. And if she didn't, she'd ask, "Now Dear, who are your people?" And they'd tell her. Frostburg was like that then in the 1950s. <br />
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One summer day when we were sitting there she told me that there was an Indian Princess in the family, and by that I was sure she meant the Workman side of the family, her mother's people. She knew all about them. Grandma told me lots of good stories about all of the families going back generations on her side and on Grandpop Kelly's side too. I remember and have proven all of them except for the Indian Princess story. <br />
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But that's typical, isn't it, in American genealogy? There's a fictitious Indian Princess in just about every tree, isn't there? I'd never been able to find one on our tree, but suddenly that changed because of a Facebook post recently. <br />
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I posted something to my Facebook page and Cousin Glenn popped up and commented that he just found out that there is an Indian Princess on the tree in the Workman line, so off I went to find out what he was talking about! After a couple of emails, he sent a link to an obit of a Susan Workman's husband, Noah Alan Skidmore, and in the obit it says that Susan's mother was an Indian Princess! <br />
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Here's the link and check out the obituary: <a href="http://www.whilbr.org/itemdetail.aspx?idEntry=4118">http://www.whilbr.org/itemdetail.aspx?idEntry=4118</a><br />
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Here's what it said:<br /><em><span style="color: purple;">Susan was born in the year of 1822 on June 21. She was 18 years old and Noah 24 years old when they were married. Susan was the daughter of William and Teraca Workman. She was born in Dutch Hollow, a small community two miles below Frostburg, Maryland. Susan’s mother was a Cherokee Indian Princess. Susan and her family were living in Kernes, West Virginia. when Susan and Noah were married. Susan was dark skin [sic] with very high cheek bones and jet black hair. Susan wore her hair in long braids. Susan was a talented artist, painting birds and animals. Susan’s father, Bill Workman, was also known as Indian Bill. He was a Revolutionary soldier. He received 800 acres of land for services to the government and he sold all of the land for a barrel of whiskey.</span></em> <br />
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So Susan's mother was Teraca, or Tereca. I flew so fast to Google that name! And yes, she's the real deal!<br />
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Teraca's father was Chief Lonacona, aka. George Washington Cresap Fish, of the Fish Clan in the Turtle Tribe, born about 1700. His brother was Chief Nemacolin who is famous in Western Maryland. <br />
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But wait, as soon as I get that nailed down, this pops up and I'm not sure who is the father and who is the brother. This is from <a href="http://www.genealogy.com/forum/general/topics/ai/13566/">http://www.genealogy.com/forum/general/topics/ai/13566/</a><br />
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<em><span style="color: blue;">I would love to find other descendants of this Lenape chief, who was born 1715 in a village on the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania and died 1767 on Blennerhassett Island, in the Ohio River between the states of Ohio and West Virginia.He is in the history books:<br /><br /> "A Delaware Nation Chief, Nemacolin played an important part in the blazing of trails into the American wilderness. In 1752, he was hired by Thomas Cresap and Christopher Gist to act as a frontier guide. Together, he led the team along existing Native American footpaths in the Allegheny Mountains. From these explorations, they carved a major pathway into the west. The trail they blazed became to be known as Nemacolin's Trail."<br /><br /> Nemacolin was the son of another, and more important chief, Checochinicon, and the father of still another, Lonacona, a.k.a. George Washington Gist. Lonacona's daughter was named Tereca, and she married William Workman. They migrated to West Virginia and raised six children. William and Tereca were my great, great grandparents.</span></em><br />
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See what happens when an Indian Princess pops up?!.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-54501261037120537742015-12-10T21:40:00.002-08:002015-12-10T21:40:49.133-08:00You hear about stuff like this: Another lesson learned while doing DAR applications.You've probably heard about this, maybe in an article or at a lecture. I know I have. Yet it was staring me right in the face, boldly and defiantly, for more than four months and I didn't even notice! <br />
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So here's what happened. We were looking for the wife's maiden name, which as you can see is not listed here. The couple was married in 1769 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, but look: their first child was born in 1781. Why no children for 12 years? That is highly irregular for the time and place. Maybe they didn't get married in 1769 and maybe this record was for another couple with similar names. Or maybe there were more children not listed here. Which one was it?<br />
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After looking for another couple where the groom was named Isaac Howland and the bride's first name was Sarah, we found one other who came from Pembroke, Plymouth Co. MA and with a different set of children. Maybe that marriage date in 1769 belonged to them? After due consideration and tracking down a lot of information about this family unit and constructing the names of all of the children, it was determined that the couple in Pembroke did not have this set of children. <br />
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It then seemed logical that the marriage record of 1769 belonged to the couple listed above. So how to explain about the 12 childless years? Can you look at the page above and come to any conclusions that might fit the scenario? <br />
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So here's the thing that we all hear about but can so easily miss when we come across it. This record was a transcription of a church record. Look at the writing. Even though the date of birth for all of the children was years apart, the document was written all at once. Have you ever seen a family bible that recorded all of the births, marriages, and deaths? Each entry has a look of its own. These entries in the record above all look the same, in the same hand done at the same time. It makes a difference. Here's why.<br />
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If the couple had children during the 12 year period immediately after their marriage and before the date of birth of the first child, Ichabod, in the record above, if could that those records are in another book and was not transcribed at the time this record was. <br />
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We're still looking for those missing children. But noticing that the writing was done at the same time and in the same hand was a real clue to go look for children born before Ichabod.<br />
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Tip: know when and in what way the source document was made. <br />
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Once your application is approved by the highly professional DAR Staff Genealogist, or Genie as we lovingly call them, you can then submit what's called a Supplemental Application for another Patriot. And you can keep on going and going. With each Patriot approved you earn the right to purchase a lovely little Ancestor Bar to pin on your DAR ribbon and insignia. The pin looks something like this, below.<br />
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Some of the ladies really enjoy the hunt for new ancestors! I know I do. I have just four so far with three more awaiting approval. But I've heard of ladies having 30, 40, or more! Here's a photo of a ribbon offered on eBay with a couple of ancestor bars, but not in the correct position. And yes, the order of the pins matters.<br />
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When you submit an application either to be a member or as an supplemental application after your original application, if you mess up and don't prove the name, date, or palace to the standards required, the Genie will send you an Additional Information Required letter, or AIR.<br />
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Recently I submitted two supplemental applications, one each for Isaac Workman and Peter Trautman. Each got an AIR. Bummer for me. But each one was an opportunity to learn and become a better genealogist. Read on!<br />
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When I got the AIR letter I must confess to being shocked. I knew this family cold. Knew them all because my Grandma Kelly talked about all of them as if they were still alive. Mom collected documentation on this line fore years and I've added to her treasure trove. So to have the Genie cast a shade of doubt on Elisha Workman as the son of John and to doubt John's date of death, well that was ... shocking.<br />
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How many times as genealogists do we have someone call us out on our conclusions? When was the last time someone called you out like that? And a high ranking professional genealogist at that! I had to take a moment to gather myself! Then I got to work:)<br />
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The problem with Isaac Workman's son John was that I found his probate file and worked off of that to determine that he died about 12 July 1859. The Genie writing the AIR pointed out that the previous application for Isaac through his son John used that date but exactly a year later: 12 July 1858. The AIR requested more information. I had no idea where the previous app got the date they did so I had to go look and try to determine what they used as a source. Luckily it was obviously the obituary of John's sister, Margaret, and I had that at hand. I tried to reconstruct the original source and had to contact an older researcher who had known Margaret of the obit. He said that it had been copied out of an old family bible. Well! It is no big stretch of the imagination to see where coping a date out of an old bible could go wrong. <br />
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What I used as the source for the death date was John's probate file. From the doctor's bill, it could be seen that the last visit to Isaac was July 11 of that year. The bill from the undertaker stated that he delivered a coffin on July 12th. Therefore, it could be concluded that he died on or about 12 July 1859. Hands down, the probate file was a better document that the missing bible record with the date passed down from generation to generation.<br />
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I knew I was solid on the probate file and the date of death so I started writing that up as I took time to think about the best way to prove that Elisha was the son of John. Of course the probate file contained a good number of documents that named John, but the Genie asked if there might be another John in the area: how did we know that this Elisha was the son of this John? I had to admit it: it was a good question.<br />
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The big red flag was the 1850 census that enumerated a John Workman in the dwelling place listed adjacent to John Workman in Allegany Co., MD. We can't say that they "lived next to each other" and that proved anything because we don't know if that was what happened. Maybe the dwelling were 10 miles apart and over the hill. Can't tell from this census record. What we can say is that the two were enumerated in the 1850 census, one after the other on the same page. <br />
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And that isn't even the worst of it!! Elisha Workman, the son, is listed as 29 years old. John is listed as 50. That makes him 21 years too young! Good grief! <br />
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The only thing to do, I felt, was to search all of the census records for Allegany County, MD for 1850 and 1860 to see if there was any other male named John who was the correct age for our John. And there wasn't. Whew. <br />
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It might be said that one of the biggest conundrums of the DAR Genealogy Consultant is the Multiple Men of the Same Name. I groan audibly every time I run into it, and it happens a lot back before 1850. The same set of names are handed down from generation to generation results in more John and Elijah combinations that you want to see. And why is there a Cuthbert in every generation? What you're going to need is a spreadsheet, or a chart at least. Names on one side and records on the other, or in whatever combination works for you. <br />
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And the key, most of the time, is location. Where were they when that happened? The same man can not, luckily, be in two different residences at the same time. Just go ahead and plug it all in that spread sheet or chart and have faith that it will work out. And it will. Give it time to breathe, and make sure that you haven't overlooked any records. The check tax records, and land records and any other local records you can dig up. Go local!! Use Excel if you're comfortable, or a chart or table. Or just spread them all out on the floor. But get them out there so you can see them all. Then give it time. Don't be in too much of a rush with this. <br />
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That worked for me on the Isaac Workman AIR. Between the probate file and a thorough examination of the census records for all Elijah and John Workman in that location at that time, it all made sense and the puzzle was solved. <br />
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I was so happy when I got official word that my supplemental application had been verified. The in the blink of an eye, I ordered my ancestor bar for Isaac Workman! <br />
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Another time I'll share what happened with the Peter Trautman and his granddaughter. That would be the wife of Elisha Workman, Nancy Ann Trautman. It's another case where the census helped, along with a probate file. <br />
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.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-2084229787915978982015-11-19T19:31:00.002-08:002015-11-19T19:31:43.366-08:00Let's go find you a DAR Patriot, and a tip or two about finding them on your tree.Recently, I've been sharing bits and pieces of my work as a Genealogy Consultant for the DAR. When a new prospective member and I sit down to start the work of documenting her lineage back to her Revolutionary War patriot, I first ask if she has any women in her family or up her tree who were DAR members. If she does then that's a great start and we can get to work right away. If not then I ask if she knows of anyone on her tree who was in the Revolutionary War. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't know of one.<br />
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You might be wondering how it might come to be that a woman wants to be a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution and not already know of her patriot ancestor? It happens more often than you might think! Say I'm a member and my best-est ever friend also wants to be a member so we can have some fun together while giving back to the community but doesn't know of a patriot on her tree. What to do? Call in the Genealogy Consultant.<br />
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It happened just this way recently. One of our members who gives a lot of time to the organization was hopeful that her friend could have a DAR patriot on her tree. She and her friend started building out a tree for her on Ancestry as quickly as possible, mostly using Ancestry Member Trees. It's not the most reliable way to build a tree for your personal work, but when you're in a hurry it can work if you are careful about using those member trees. Look for documentation and the more sources you see on a tree, the more likely it is to be worthwhile. Our member and her friend thought they found a patriot of the Revolution and that's when they got me involved. <br />
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Before we get into that, I want to share an observation or two. When I first started doing this work for the DAR, the general thought was that there were ladies out in the population who would come to us and say they wanted to be a member just so that someone with some skills would build out their tree for them. I don't see that anymore. I think that Ancestry is out there running commercials all the time and people see how "easy" it is to do your own genealogy. It gives an impression that they can build out a tree in no time just by following those shaky leaves. So they pretty much don't need the DAR to do that for them. And it's good for us because ladies don't say they are interested in membership for the wrong reason.<br />
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Another thought to share at this point is that sometimes what we've been told about who is on a prospective member's tree, just isn't true. A couple of months ago I saw a very big hole in the lineage of a delightful woman. She had been told that her 2nd great grandmother was a DAR. When I built out a tree for her, I could see that the name she gave me as the member was possibly the niece of someone who might be on her tree. After a serious hunt, I could not find any proof of her real great grandmother's parents. At that point I called in some ladies who knew how to find a hidden ancestor and they too couldn't find a mother or a father. It was a very difficult moment when I had to tell her that we hadn't been able to prove her lineage. I could tell that she thought we weren't very good at doing this sort of stuff. Oh, well.<br />
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OK, so I started out wanting to share how we find patriots on a tree. I think it's cool and it's pretty simple, really. First, understand that for DAR purposes, an ancestor can be considered for recognition as a Patriot if the rendered service happened from 19 April 1775 to 26 November 1783. To be of an appropriate age your ancestor is most likely to have been born between the years of approximately 1726 to 1765. As you might imagine, young men usually fought and older men gave good and services, wrote petitions and other patriotic works. Women rendered service when they cooked, mended clothes, or gave materials that would help support the fighting. Both men and women paid Supply Taxes, in which a portion of the tax collected went to the support of the war effort. <br />
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I could say a lot more here about the types of eligible service, but let's save that for another day. Just know that you should look at men and women equally. Women's service is a bit more difficult to prove, usually, because they are often hidden to the records. And remember too, that you have hundreds and hundreds of ancestors to look at!<br />
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So that's pretty much it. That's where you start. You ancestor born in Canada? Maybe they might be a patriot too especially f they came from Quebec. From France? It's worth a check because France was our biggest friend during the Revolution. Spain? Sure, it's worth a check because Spain had forts in the southern territories, in Florida, and in what's now Louisiana. Mexico? Try it too. More and more of the newer ancestor Patriots recently added to the DAR listings have been from Canada, France, and Spain. <br />
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How do you check? Go to DAR.org and click on the bar that says Genealogy. That will take you to the GRS, or Genealogy Records System. The click on Ancestor Database and start entering names. Be sure to use the Advanced Search and Soundex. Sometimes it helps to enter less information rather than more. Give it a try. You might be surprised!!<br />
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The URL for this post is: .http://www.blogger.com/profile/03345647074957775446noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1854450118535096810.post-11888948031747020682015-11-18T20:23:00.000-08:002015-11-18T20:23:00.702-08:00A short little story about a recent DAR application and a tipI like working as a Genealogy Consultant for the DAR. I meet and work closely with a lovely bunch of ladies who are real excited about becoming members. And each one brings with her a unique basket of ancestors and every basket is different. Sure, our chapter here in San Diego is lots of fun and we work at projects that serve our community and the veterans and their families who live and work here. But mostly, I think I'm in it for the genealogy!<br />
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Recently I helped a prospective member get her application ready. She had a lot of ancestors from Mississippi and Alabama during the early 1800s. Everyone had initials instead of proper given names! Everyone! If you stopped to carefully examine who was where and when, you could sort of guess how the generations lined up and who was who. But I swear, each person had a different name in every record. I'd hoped that a chart might convince the Genie at National who reviewed that application of the connections between generations, but he remained questioning. So the prospective member received a ARI, or Additional Information Requested.<br />
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At first when I began doing this work, I was super afraid of the AIR letter. It had been called at one time "dreaded." One tried not to get an AIR, at all costs. And some of the ladies sort of bragged that they'd never received one! Really?! But I almost don't mind getting one because I know that I missed some item and there was an opportunity to learn. If I could keep my cool.<br />
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Well, here we are in Mississippi and this ancestor of my prospective member is a lady who is listed with lots of initials in records and not hardly a full given name in the lot. Even on this ancestor's death certificate listing the name of her father, she was recorded as Mrs. "Husband's Name". Her father's name recorded there gave two initials and not a given name to be seen. So that death certificate was no help in establishing proof of the woman's parentage, at all. We used it to establish dates of birth and death. But not to establish parentage.<br />
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I made a chart hoping to see the connection between records. It could be done but it was a long way to go to prove one name. I would have to use five censes records, a Civil War Pension Application and a Service File from Fold3. That's a lot of stuff to prove one set of names. Then I thought of a tried-and-true strategy I'd used before: checking the death certificate of siblings. <br />
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I made a list of where each of our lady's sibs died and had the prospective member look for and order them. Two came back. The sister's death certificate was as bad as the one in hand of the ancestor in question. But her brother's death certificate listed both of his parents with full names! Connection between generation made!<br />
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To wrap it all up, census records from both 1870 and 1880 were referenced to show that family unit and that the lady ancestor included the man whose death certificate we submitted. It made a tidy little package.<br />
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So, just the other afternoon, I got to thinking that maybe there were details in that little book I'd overlooked or dismissed as folklore. Maybe I should go back and catalog the myriad details on those pages of his about the ancestors in my direct line. Make a list or a chart or something and see what could be seen. There's a lot there and with time - a lot of it - and a research log to track where I went, maybe more could be found. And that's what I've been doing, and have to say, this is going to take a LOT of time!!<br />
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So here it is. The chart that will hopefully show truth through documentation, if I can find that documentation. The right hand column is where I'll track findings so it's practically empty now. <br />
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Hey, and let me know if you have any missing pieces or can elaborate on any events, dates or places. Thanks!!<br />
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Family came from Holland. Religious persecution.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Lutheran.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">During war, drove cart that seemed to have butter and eggs but had
had sacks of powder, through lines. Was searched but told to pass.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Miss Kepplinger’s Mother<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<o:p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Given Cory Kepplinger<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Sister to Col. Corry.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Made sheep skin shoes for soldiers.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Her maiden name was Cory. This is the correct spelling as per
Wikipedia.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Col. Corry / Cory<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">French & Indian and Rev. fame.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Town of Corry PA was named for him.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Town is Corry but founders name was Cory. Wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mrs. Macelvaine<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Sister to Miss Kepplinger’s mother<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Her maiden name was Cory too.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mr. Koontz<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Miss Kepplinger’s uncle.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Owner Colonial Hotel of York PA.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Continental Congress was held here after run out of Philadelphia.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Father<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mr. Kepplinger<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Ground all wheat for soldiers at Valley Forge.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Had a salt works on the Patapsco river where Baltimore now stands.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">The company was known as Beason, Kepplinger & Magoun.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">They conveyed salt to Beasontown, now Uniontown.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Uniontown was Beesontown, Founded by Henry Beeson, 1776. Wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Father, Mother, and servants<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Attended to and fed soldiers in their barn.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Thomas Newan<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">War of 1812<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Maryland Volunteers<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Capt. Steiners Company<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Col. Stoners Regiment<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mary Knough<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Wife of Thomas Newins<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Peggy <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Datsbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Bartgis<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mary Knough’s sister. Same mother but different fathers.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Married Matthew Bartgis<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Matthew Bartgis<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mayor of Frederick for years<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">after Lt. Gov. of MD.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">1<sup><span style="font-size: x-small;">st</span></sup> man to carry mail from Frederick to Winchester and
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">1750, organized the mail service in America.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">First to print a nsp at Winchester VA and Frederick MD/<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">James Bartgis<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Son of Matthew and Peggy<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mayor of Frederick<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Hiram Bartgis<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Son of Matthew and Peggy<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Sheriff of Frederick<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Peggy Bartgiss Father<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mr. Datsbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Member of the House of Burgess <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Carried an effigy of King George through the streets of Frederick
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Indian Fighter<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Peter Myers<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Helped build Ft Frederick in 1756.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Served in Rev. War:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Battle of Brandywine<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Wounded at Battle of Monmouth<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Mary Hughes<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Wife of Peter Myers.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">They had 5 children:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Betsy<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Nancy<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">John<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">William<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Jacob, served in 1812<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Most trees show Hibbs.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Jacob Myers<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Born in Tanneytown MD 1789<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Died Cumberland 7 Feb 1852<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Served in 1812<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Sheriff of Frederick County. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Stage agent for Sto?? ??tokes stage line from Frederick to
Morgantown.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Afterward transferred to Cumberland.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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